What Do You Do For Kids After 3:30?

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You can learn so many things in a school hallway.apple-question-mark-300x272

What’s happening in school.  What’s happening out of school.  Who’s dating whom.  Who just broke up with whom by text (welcome to what I consider an extremely bleak and odd future).

If you listen closely between classes, you could probably learn the true identity of D.B. Cooper (kids are smarter than you think).

Of course, most of the stuff I overhear from kids makes me say “Huh?”.

Which is a whole lot better than the things I overhear that make me say “Eww.”

The key is to listen, but not listen too closely (How to Be a School Administrator 101).

Once in a while, I feel like my time in the hallway is extra productive.

These are the times when I gain real tidbits of knowledge.

It could be from a student or a teacher.  But there are definitely things said that make me smarter.

Some might argue this isn’t too difficult.

I would tend to agree.

One day in the not so distant past, I asked a coach if he was actually a teacher during the day, or simply a coach waiting for his next game to begin.

Without hesitating, he said he was a teacher who coaches, not a coach who teaches.

I thought that was a great answer.  Especially, since he didn’t hesitate (plus, he seemed a little annoyed… which is a good sign).

Then he said something that made me smarter.

He said “Instead of asking about what I do during the day, maybe you should be asking what other teachers do after 3:30 to make kids better.”

Coaches commit hours to students after school and on weekends (as do other teachers).

He made a good point.

It’s not good enough that we just give our best during the school day.

The teaching profession is becoming more and more of a 24 hour a day job.

Whether we like it or not, we have to do more for students to help them be successful.

Which means,  all of us have to not only give our best during the school day, but also after 3:30.

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13 Responses to “What Do You Do For Kids After 3:30?”


  1. Christine Nathan
    on Aug 31st, 2011
    @ 7:44 pm

    My favorite times during the school day are lunch time ( I supervise 400- 8th graders eating – dare call it that) and after school when I assist a needy student with completion of a project due yesterday! I agree that the hallways are like the “Inquirer” gossip magazine and you never know what to believe!


  2. Brandi Caldwell
    on Sep 2nd, 2011
    @ 11:18 am

    Preach it! My husband and I are both teachers. He is a football and basketball coach as well as a fabulous math teacher. He told a story about a new student who got her test back and began confronting him in class about him not giving her credit for an answer. When she took a tone with him, two of his basketball players came to his defense and proclaimed that not only was he the best math teacher they had ever had, but that he REALLY CARED about his students. I know that the relationship and support he builds outside of the classroom make the difference.


  3. Kristin Ipema
    on Sep 25th, 2011
    @ 6:29 pm

    I think this article brings up at great point! Teaching today is becoming a 24 hr job and I think it is important for teachers to think about how not only how they want their students to be successful during school hours but also how they want their students to succeed outside of school hours as well. Being a coach as well as a teacher is a great way to show your students that you support them not only in academics but also in everything that they are interested in. Coaches can teach their players real life skills on how to be a good leader and work together as a team and this is something that students need to learn as well. Teachers should make a conscious effort to show their students support and encouragement both in and outside the classroom. It is important to show your students that you value them for who they are and that you want them to be successful in all areas in life.


  4. Rebecca Calhoun
    on Sep 26th, 2011
    @ 2:12 pm

    I agree! I believe that being a teacher goes beyond the school day. I feel that as educators it is important for us to reflect on the school day and what we can do to make the next day better. It is also important for educators to continue to be students themselves. Nothing irritated me more as a student when a teacher would leave a question unanswered. It is important for teachers to know their community and their students as well. Teaching beyond the classroom benefits the teacher and the classroom.


  5. Lisa Trepton
    on Sep 26th, 2011
    @ 4:47 pm

    I couldn’t agree more with this post. Teachers are “on call” even after the school day for homework questions, tutoring sessions, meetings and other responsibilites. Teachers need to be there for their students and should always have the best interest and success of the student in mind. Coaching is one way for teachers to connect with students outside of the classroom. Leading an after school club or helping with a drama production are other examples of teachers teaching beyond the classroom. Teaching is merely a job, it’s a calling. Teachers need a passion for teaching, students and learning in order to fufill that calling.


  6. Kelly VandenBerg
    on Sep 26th, 2011
    @ 9:36 pm

    Oh the things that are heard in the hallway… it keeps life interesting if nothing else! Thanks so much for your posts, I love reading them, and I often laugh out loud as I do. This post is a great reminder that even though we’ve put in a full day as of 3:30, we still need to push through and support our students beyond that. I especially like your post coming from a special education viewpoint. Students who struggle to have a social life, students coming from a broken home, as well as others may see the school environment as a safe-haven, and may see the teacher as a strong role model. Leaving them out to dry come 3:30 is no way to continue educating them. Learning is a 24 hour job for the students, so teaching should be a 24 hour job for us as well.


  7. Stephanie DeBoer
    on Sep 27th, 2011
    @ 9:20 pm

    I agree with this post and found it very entertaining. I like the coaches response about how he is a teacher that coaches. Having been in sports through my schooling I can relate to having a teacher was also my coach. It was very important to feel that he cared just as much about my education as he did about my performance as an athlete. Coaches can have a huge impact on a students life. Teachers who also give time to their students after the end of the day leave an impact in a student life. Teachers need to realize that as long as they are around the students they are working. Teaching is becoming a 24 hour job and teachers need to embrace that and put their best effort during all the hours they work.


  8. Hannah Sprague
    on Sep 28th, 2011
    @ 9:46 am

    This article raises a really good point!
    I agree completely. As a future teacher this really gets me thinking. As educators we have an extreme passion for our students, but why do we feel the need to shut that off right when the bell rings and its 3:30? I think you bring to the article a great example when you asked the coach. I liked his answer! Teachers need to be like this coach… someone who is interested in what their kids are doing during the school day as well as beyond 3:30. Education is a full time job. Obviously kids do not want their teachers to be noisy, but being available to talk or whatever they need (even if that means after school) is very important. I remember a teacher I had in high school who was extremely interested in our learning and a fabulous teacher, but after school she would come to our sporting events, choir concerts and so on. She also was available to talk, about math or just life, whenever! It really showed her students that she cared. Needless to say she was one of my favorite teachers because I feel like not only did she invest her time academically in me, but aspects of my social life as well. What an admirable trait to have as a teacher.
    Great article and one that really gets me thinking as a future educator. Thanks!


  9. Brigitte Haney
    on Sep 28th, 2011
    @ 2:21 pm

    I found this article very interesting, I believe that the coach had a great response to the question he was asked. It is one thing to be a teacher and teach children the things that will get them though the future, but it is another to be both a teacher and a coach. Coaches are a great thing. Many children participate in after school activities or sports. When a teacher puts forth that extra effort to stay after school and spend more time with the children I believe that it really shows the children how much they care. Some teachers get aggravated with the students after teaching them all day, but it is good to show the students that not everyone is like that. Teaching is becoming a 24 hour job and it is important that people going in to the profession understand and commit to that.


  10. Brittany Monaco
    on Sep 28th, 2011
    @ 8:29 pm

    This makes total sense! I remember having teachers in grade school and high school who only taught during the regular school hours and as soon as the bell rang they didn’t know who you were. These same teachers were also never liked much. The best teachers were the ones who coached, ran an after school group, or who stayed after just so students had a place to do homework or hang out. The teachers made an extra effort which transferred over to the students.
    Coaches make a big impact on children’s lives, they respect them, they look up to them and most of all they listen to them so when a teacher is both things the classroom is a much happier place.


  11. Molly McNicholas
    on Sep 29th, 2011
    @ 6:30 am

    As a future teacher, I hope that I will have the pleasure to be a coach, as well. Because I grew up playing sports, I know how influential a good coach can be (and how detrimental an effect a sub-standard one can have). A good coach listens to his players and always has the well-being of the team in mind. Aren’t teachers, even the ones who aren’t coaches, similar in this respect? A team or a classroom needs a fearless leader to remain strong and help them succeed in the face of opposition. I hope to build unity in my future classroom so that my students “cheer” for each other and rejoice in each other’s accomplishments.


  12. Nate Hill
    on Sep 29th, 2011
    @ 11:38 am

    This is a great motto to live by as a teacher. I’m glad I was able to read this experience. Looking back at my educational journey I think of all the teachers that I had and in thinking about what they did for me the best ones I had were the ones that went above and beyond. The best teachers I have had did things for their students past 3:30. Coaches especially fill this category. They teach all day then after school they are in the gym or on the field teaching in another way. I have respect for what my teachers and coaches have done for me. Once I become a teacher that is the least I can do. Give my students more than just 8- 3:30; go above and beyond.


  13. Hannah Schaap
    on Oct 5th, 2011
    @ 11:11 pm

    I think that this article really shows how dedicated that teacher and coach is. I know that a lot of the time coaches care more about their sport than what they do during the day, but this is a real example of someone being passionate about what they do all the time. It is a great question to ask about what the other teachers do to help their students after 3:30. I hope that I can someday be a teacher and coach who wants to help my students and athletes at all times.

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